Whey I decline and hang up, an hour later I get a series of similar calls. Thank you for your insights and for sharing the stream of comments from other writers. Thanks for the informative site Jay. I did receive an email from them. He was very happy with the outcome. It has been a true pleasure working with all of you! Its already being published, why do they want anything to do with me? Payment Received $800.00 Invoice NoINV-001755, INV-001756, INV-001757, INV-001758 Payment Date07/10/19 Note: The $700.00 PAYMENT WAS COMPLETELY IGNORED. I made it clear I am sending out the actual book after their response, to traditional publishers that might like it. Dorrance does offer some promotional services which are helpful once your book is complete and I'll discuss those further below, but before you can take advantage of them, you need a completed manuscript and the available finances. Self-serve customer portal. This may not be a scam, but I never had such a similar experience from my two publishers. Hello Jay Dorrance Publishing Services will turn your completed manuscript into a printed book. If 'scam' isn't appropriate, would 'grossly incompetent' be? Our ghostwriting services are perfect for those who have an idea for a book, but can't write it themselves. The 7th post is when the discussion turns to Dorrance. My granddaughter was able to finish and published HURTING PAIN VS HEALING PAIN with Cordetbooks, Inc. as a birthday gift to me. Get the inside scoop on jobs, salaries, top office locations, and CEO insights. < http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8500 > Jeanne Gassman Oct 28, 2008 #3 Nicole, No reputable publisher charges you a fee to publish your work. Some body need to shut them down. DORRANCE PUBLISHING COMPANY, INC.585 Alpha Dr. Suite 103, Pittsburgh, PA 15238|Phone: 800-695-9599 - Fax: 412-387-1319. I dont expect to get rich from this book although it would be nice. I would have pursued the matter, perhaps in the media first. Their reviews on line are awful. I already submitted my book to Amazon for publishing but Im still interested to get in touch with Dorrance. Word counts, page counts, number of illustrations, available binding options and page sizes are all things that can be discussed on a phone or through email and as long the information you give them is accurate, I don't see why they couldn't give you a pretty close estimate of your cost before you send them your manuscript. I guess what I'm curious about though (and again, correct me if I'm wrong), I'm not sure why they need to see your manuscript to determine those things. Dorrance Publishing has a publishing bookstore. I appreciate that you took the time to respond to help many aspiring writers. So, in the endI have a book that will go nowhere until the two- year contract ends and neither I nor Dorrance will see any income, although they did get my $ 4,000.00. Hope to hear from you, I am in Vancouver. Dorrance Publishing is one of the oldest self-publishing service providers which was founded in 1920 by Gordon Dorrance. View our Privacy Policy | Read our President's Statement of Confidentiality | Developed by Flying Cork. Buy two dozen to give to friends and you will be satisfied. Theyre hounding me with phone calls and emails. As soon as I sent my manuscript to copyright.gov, they bombarded me. It just feels a little deceptive in my opinion. As a result, I began to look into them. Are you Dorrance? Not true. Contact Dorrance Book Publishing Customer Service Website: www.dorrancepublishing.com Mailing Address: 585 Alpha Dr. Suite 103 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238 United States Phone: (800) 695-9599 Contact Dorrance Book Publishing Customer Service Jul 06, 2018 PissedConsumer1296979 of Houston, TX Disgusting and Despicable 1.0 I have had 4 fiction novels published by Dorrance and despite what I hear, they have kept to the contract. Our team of employee-owners has proudly partnered with thousands of authors on publishing over 8,000 book titles since 2009. The good, the bad and the ugly. I'm NOT saying they're being deceptive, it would just be helpful if Dorrance made their intentions clear up front and fewer people would question if they're a scam. Because I am in the endgame of publishing my book through Dorrance and having read many of the most recent comments below, I have decided to add my own experience and will update when my book hits the streets. What a gift for me to leave to my grandson, Sawyer Bear. Along the way we exchanged emails in which I vainly tried to make them understand my requirement on endnotes. Movies & TV. Thats about double what most books sell for so the author is stuck with a book that they can only give away or sell themselves. I am still experiencing the need to contact them at least two times and more before they will reply. On the contrary, they gave me discounts. I already sent them a copy of my manuscript and it has been accepted. I dont have the legal background in these matters to say with certaint this is true. Im a retired coach with an MBA from TCU.I started with Dorrance,but couldnt afford the payments so they switched me to Rose Dog over 5 weeks ago. Indeed Featured review. When they offer a straightforward acceptance or rejection FINE!, But the deceptive sales come-on tactics of publishers such as these simply reeks of predatory behavior, rather than partnership. . Theyre prices are in line and easy to understand. Book is available Dorrance Publishing !. Is Course Hero a Scam, or a Legit Way to Make Money Online? I still have not received a single cent from them. Use a website like Upwork to find freelancers to edit, and if you have any graphic work you need done, Id go with 99designs. I am def not interested in self publishing. Join us now and publish your book with Dorrance, or explore our options for . With all this stuff going on with James Comey and the FBI today, it is rather pertinent. That's definitely too rich for my blood. Dorrance Publishing Co. Book and Periodical Publishing Pittsburgh, PA 2,779 followers For 100 years, Dorrance Publishing Co. has been a trusted resource for self-publishing authors. Thanks again. Hi Giulia, Advertising and MarketingManaged AdWords campaigns, e-mail marketing . They also can publish e-books for around $4 to $4.95. Combine your love of writing with making money, I mean. They will offer a payment plan, but, unless you complete your payments, your book will not be released. In some cases, authors have reported 20 to 30 thousand dollars for services. They send releases to all the media and lists the author provides. They dont simply print your book, hand you the number of copies you paid for, and say goodbye. I signed my contract on June of this year. . they work with your needs and even will revise contracts to your liking. Royalties on printed books sold through Dorrance Publishings bookstore are 40%. Sounds scammy, I am paying no one for something that is already published!!! That seems a bit predatory to me, personally. If I can find the time Ill definitely look into them, at the moment though I wouldnt want to make a recommendation one way or the other. Whether or not its what the client wanted to hear, I cant say. I now expect my book to become hard copy a month later than was plannedat least. I guess the main reason why many people have mixed feelings about Dorrance Publishing is due to the fact that, possibly, authors have been charged over the odds, without being given any real guidelines of the fees applied. Unless they wish to go Trad with me and invest in my series, if they legitimately believe in it. . For over 100 years, individuals have trusted Dorrance to fulfill their dream of becoming a published author. It was my dream to earn a living while writing I had to diversify. But its not cheap and as Dorrance states on their website, it'll be difficult to recoup those cost, never mind making a profit. Contact: Freelance Associates. I already published with KDP, and to any one wanting to self publish go with KDP not only did I no have to pay them a dime they work with a multitude of companies. Dorrance Publishing Co. May 1991 - May 200817 years 1 month. Me and my husband have credit cards to pay and wev'e had countless fights . In the broad scheme of things, I'll trust Karma to handle the required Justice I'm sure many would like to see. James P. Hosty an FBI special agent in Dallas interviewed Marina Oswald twice before November 22, 1963 and had canvassed her neighborhood prior to this to investigate her which angered Lee Harvey Oswald when he found out about it. They seem to offer a one-stop all inclusive service but I dont know if they will follow through. 73. some from people, most from myself. Page Publishing is a New York-based company that provides professional help to assist authors to transform their books from a rough draft to published hardcopy or ebooks. The lawsuit looks to cover all persons in the United States who entered into a contract with Dorrance Publishing Company or any of its affiliates (I-Proclaim Books, Red Lead Press, Rose Dog Books and Whitmore Publishing Company) and who were due to receive commissions from sales of books in the last six years, and which commissions the publisher Imagine the possibilities. Filing 1 COMPLAINT against Dorrance Publishing Company, Inc. ( Filing and Admin fee $ 402 receipt number ANJDC-13423575) with JURY DEMAND, filed by Tina M Lockhart. My royalty was $1.80 per book and my contract says I get 20% but it doesnt say 20% of what. I hope you get you get your book out there soon . If you would be so kind to send the reimbursement , in my name in amount saved from the termination of this contract, it would be greatly appreciated. I was notified by Dorrance yesterday that they accepted my story and wanted to move forward. I sent a certified letter canceling service and they act like they never received it. Thanks for stopping by, and again I appreciate you sharing your story. My first conversation with their business rep was not flattering. Thanks for the information. I have a book that is currently being published by Dorrance. The problem with vanity publishing in my view isnt so much all the chicanery involved with fees, its the cost of the books which is too high to sell in a conventional market. Writing a book, getting it published, and having it make money is a massive project that takes years. In the first HUNDRED WORDS the 'professional editor' missed 'Conway inhabited merely three hundred people', 'all houses are positioned near the town square that held' (tense change) and the misused phrase 'set point'. This only yesterday so I am checking up. They are called Bookstand Publishing and I believe they are based out of northern California. Therefore, I decided to have my book publish by Dorrance despite of some negative comments. This isn't my first publishing experience, but it's the first self-publishing I've done. It's an educational platform that requires time and effort (but I don't know any writer who's afraid of time and effort? also I have another email address as follows mdsgr44@gmail.com. I lived in Liverpool 62-65 so I saw the whole Beatles thing unfold. Writers can now publish and promote their work online. From the editing to page proofs to cover design, Im very pleased with that aspect. However, by then the end date had come and gone. UPMC turned to Dorrance to publish their corporate history, which chronicles their journey to becoming a recognized health enterprise. This review has been researched with information and testimonials that are available online in the public domain. I'm sorry everyone likes a good conspiracy and as a writer, a little drama to make an otherwise emotionless review come alive is always fun. Hi Another strategy for writers is to Uber to combine writing with making money. Well if it sounds ridiculous, thats because it is. Dorrance Publishing would like to make it easier, but according to some, they're a scam. that were binding and would be worth reviewing if you did so. You might even call it a need. I loved the cover of his book. Cheryl. It will be interesting to see how it goes. Dorrance Publishing Author Book Sales and Earnings. Ive given it considerable thought myself because Ive got some work Id like to publish as well. In essence she was only a paralegal. It's frustrating. Im not as familiar with Palmetto Publishing (or the other publishers you mentioned), sorry but I have considered researching for future reviews. Now, onto another question I'm sure you're curious about. He gets involved if you have a problem not directly. Our United States based staff will work with you closely to achieve your publishing goals. I did receive a cryptic comment from my editing contact indicating that. Dorrance Publishing formerly published physical books, but nowadays, they also publish digital ones. Dorrance popped up on my email (radar) after I registered my novel with the US Copyright office. Schedule Appointment with Dorrance Publishing Company Publishing Services Phone Appointment 30 minutes Book Schedule an appointment to speak with your Senior Publishing Services Consultant about becoming a Published Author Manuscript Development Services Phone Appointment 30 minutes Book Once they sort that aspect of their business, I am sure they will raise your website and your business as consequence, to unimaginable heights. As someone who loves to write (and has a couple novels. There was a long wait before I received the edited document during which I received NO status reporting from my project coordinator. I appreciate having read your review. Dorrance Publishing has been around longer than any of us (unless you're approaching 100). and all the necessary arrangement for publication , and I have sign an agreement form and been summited to you . According to some other authors, it can be well into the thousands. That checked out for me, though still caught me off guard. Also use reedsy to find an editor and cover artist. The same thing happened to me. The content may be yours, but if your book has to go through Dorrance first, youll be paying them for every copy sold. But today, with digital distribution and on-demand printing, they're difficult to justify. +1 (800) 204-6099; U; Our Services. I've talked to other companies as well, so I'm weighing options. All I can say from my experience is EVERYONE Ive spoken to, wrote to etc.. Have always got Im touch with me in a timely manner and they are VERY pleasant and informal about anything in their contract. It takes months to answer to a simple question or a request as if you just go back to the bottom of the pile til your name comes up months later. Thank you Jay, for your opinion and your output in Dorrance Publishing. Now to elaborate. Thanks, that one was an oversight but its now fixed. And cant get it back. With you all the way. At least when you compare it to the digital options that are available today. Thank you for your invaluable information. I spent many hours correcting their errors, but they were never rude nor unkind no matter how impatient I had became. I might have a lawyer look into it. My experience with Dorrance Publishing has been horrible! MP4, Im a new author also. But at least their complaints were not ignored. Finding a legit system with all the scams out there though, can be a pain. We offer an a la carte solution designed to help any author spread the word. I do have some writers I work with but when it comes to more in-depth reviews like this which require deeper research, I prefer to do them myself. And why would they contact me when it looks like they only publish books? Dorrance is a hardball player in a business not suited for that demeanor. I just wanted to thank you for an incredibly thorough overview of Dorrance Publishing. The interior print and illustrations are excellent. Its only 50 pages, I cant afford more I paid 2000 so far they havent asked me for more.they are asking me to help them promote it, but I dont know how. All of them vanity publishers are. Thats been a helpful service for me as a SAG-AFTRA actor and if I find an agent it will be worth the fee. I was contacted by several publishers afterwards as well. I was pinning my hopes of being a successful writer on a couple big projects which were taking forever to finish so I turned to blogging as a solution. Any way they seemed interested and loved the concept. Or what they release when the contract expires. Hostys son wrote a book about his father to exonerate him from blame. Blogging is also a way to connect with other writers and learn about digital publishing and marketing strategies which are critical today to becoming a successful writer. I dont know about anything else except yes they are expensive if you dont have the money you can get on a payment plan and your book will NOT be published or worked on if the payment isnt in. You can order your books from then for around $7 to about $9.oo a copy. You do nothaveto pay this fee to get startedyou can simply call us right now at 888.672.6657, or schedule a no obligation consultationto get started for free. Then Covid hit. It is a book of comments which I 42 years ago. They are one of (if not the) oldest existing companies of their kind. They do not even proof read your work as they promise. What a subject for a Netflix movie: The FBI got JFK Killed. JFK was assassinated on Friday, November 22, 1963 at 12:30 p.m. by Lee Harvey Oswald in front of the Texas Book Depository at Dealey Plaza. That doesn't mean Dorrance isn't a valid option, it's just about timing and what's right for you. Publication via the Dorrance imprint is a perfect choice for the author looking for a complete, high quality, personal publishing program that leverages the expertise of publishing professionals. I wrote again to the coordinator and this time was assured that the final proof manuscript was about ready for my review. Dorrance has completed the publication of my book entitled One child Alone. Publish with Dorrance trusted by authors for over 100 years REQUEST YOUR FREE AUTHOR'S GUIDE Become a Published Author with Dorrance We help individuals like you realize the dream of becoming a published author. Do you have any suggestions. My question to you is, do you know how poetry goes over with the Dorrance readership? My income is extremely modest so I will continue to research the self publishing method. I would recommend not to even consider sending your manuscript to Dorrance Publishing Company you will be disappointed with investment money gone to waste. Dorrance has responded to both complaints offering their version of the contract. Books. Although Dorrance fulfilled their contract and published my book accordingly, the price on my paperback is $ 40.00 and Ekindle is $ 35.00. Are they the same and should I let Dorrance get one for my book? I juts talked to one of their representative yesterday and this gives me plenty to think about. Dealey Plaza The End of Camelot Its definitely proactive marketing and as someone coming from a sales and marketing background (who was always looking for good leads), I wouldnt necessarily consider it predatory but of course, thats my own bias speaking, lol. If and thats a big IF, I find there is a demand for hard copies (or my book at all) Ill look into having some printed but this is a long-term goal for me and not something Im too concerned with at the moment. surprise. But I did, and was met with an immediate apology (he had an overwhelming day) I have published eight books with them and have not had any problems. Hi Phyllis, thanks for reading. This outfit appears to me to be bait and switch, promoting themselves as a 100-year-old company which publishes hundreds of books, and mentioning nothing about its self-publishing aspect until later in the process of getting published. It could simply be an oversite. Amazing that its a scam thats been around since 1920, ha ha, you had me going, I thought I was reading about a conspiracy theory. 90 talking about this. I tried other such companies but Dorrance was the best. I had my cover done by a local artist who painted it in canvas and the digital copy looks great. Thanks Ingrid, I appreciate your feedback and insight, and hope you find the best solution to publish your book. Find out what works well at DORRANCE PUBLISHING from the people who know best. I am having a call with them later today, but I had no idea that I had to pay for their services, which for me, is out of the question and not something I can afford. My hope is they donate my money to a worthy charity. Not all, but perhaps some. Thanks for sharing. Hi Cheryl, thats a great question and my apologies, I dont have an answer. How much do Dorrance Publishing employees make? Anyway, that you cut the pie, $1.80 from $20.00 doesnt seem fair. Sent it to Dorrance to get more exposure but I am a retired military living on a small military pension (Our pay wasnt much in those days) and Social Security so if the cost is excessive I suppose I will just go back to Kindle. Its been years now since Dorrance published my book and they have been selling it on Amazon.com and many other platforms in both Kindle edition and paperback, yet they keep telling me that they have not been selling each time I contacted them to pay my royalties. They dont edit for you, unless you pay them to, but my book cover design and layout was fantastic and they sent me 50 copies-if I remember correctly, and it was about $1400. Produce both hard copies, and e-book versions. Our books are printed in the USA, too! BBB no help. I feel the same way, Sandra. Disclaimer: Please note, I am not affiliated with Dorrance Publishing in any way. The isbn is the number that scans and goes in a library system then there is also a library of Congress number you can register your book with. 2Captcha Review Legit or Make Money Online SCAM? Unfortunely I sended my manuscript to Dorrancebut till today I dont have become a contact with them, so am I still the owner of my manuscript, or not? Then again, if you compare all the facilities you get access to, Dorrance Publishing seems to be quite competitive when looking at all the promotional and writing support. I do have a question; how impossible is it to engage an actual agent to help me in this endeavor?. They collected US$10,000 from me to publish my book and help market it, assuring me that they believed the book was good enough to sell. That ANYBODY would extend even a sliver of credibility by not full-throatedly rejecting their scam says plenty about the person giving his "opinion." Clients using our ghostwriting servicework with a professional writer who writes a book for them. However, we understand that some authors are concerned about so-called "vanity publishers," who prey on authors with deceptive practices. Any thoughts on this? I do not have deep pockets and it appears that Dorrance is more in the writing services business than it is in the publishing business. Whether you're struggling with plot points, can't get started writing, or need a second opinion, we can help. Our books are printed in the USA, too! Thanks so much for the through Look at Dorrance publishing and its co=named kin. Hi Terry, great question. 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